@gcntech3 years agoWhich material do you prefer, carbon or alloy? Let us know in the comments. 139
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@icouldntthinkofagoodname72163 years agoThe only reason i need: it' s cheaper and the back up reason: i' m broke. 330
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@ekosetiawan-tm8bs2 years agoGreat review! In my opinion the carbon frame is light to ride buton the mind (you can imagine while riding, jumping but your mind worried about cracking) otherwise the aluminum frame is a bit heavy to ride, buton mind. No worry about anything) so i choosed aluminum series 7. ...Expand90
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@ericjohnson85713 years agoFinally! I knew it all along! Ive put 12, 0 miles on my aluminum road bike and love it. It handles great. Its just not worth the extra thousand buc id="hidden2"ks for about a pound and a half. The components make the bike and if you arent going to be racing up mountains that little bit isnt going to make a difference. If we are riding for fitness, maybe heavier is better in the long run. ...Expand269
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@Jayson_Tatum2 years agoMy first true road bike and what i still ride is aluminium. It was about $1400 new and it' s super light weight and strong. 9
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@jameswitte56763 years agoJust bought a specialized allez with rim brakes and shimano 105. I couldnt be happier. 45
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@berserkerfunestus3 years agoI love how ollie is an actual phd in chemistry! He may not be the fastest presenter but i love how geeky he can be and by far my favourite one. Cheers from mexico! 67
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@daverhodes88723 years agoVery interesting video. I love my aluminium frames orro terra g. Have to admit that i didnt set out to buy an aluminium frame, it just suited my budget a . ...Expand83
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@fergusfitzgerald9773 years agoI have a ridley carbon bike but previously had an aluminium frame which met my needs totally - so this is a good topic! what worries me about id="hidden5" carbon is recycling ( pardon the pun ) so you are correct -once again a great point! maybe you could explore the ecological impact of carbon frames in some future video?. ...Expand12
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@aaronerskine34013 years agoGreat video! Another valid point regarding weight savings would be if you looked first at losing weight personally instead of buying a lighter bike - id="hidden6" ie if you could lose 3 pounds would be the same as buying a bike that is 3 pounds lighter. ...Expand8
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@fabianbv823 years agoI would like to see a video comparing carbon vs titanium frames or bikes. And even a ride test and the production process. Would be nice! 9
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@jfr19073 years agoAllez sprint for the win! Saw a video today about what would you build up for 8k to be a good race bike and one of the two specd an allez sprint frame,. ...Expand7
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@branislavmata87033 years agoI have emonda alr 5 over 5 years now and i wouldn' t change it. Just upgraded to full ultegra r80 and new wheels (from racing quattro' s to vision trimax 35 after just over 150km) 36
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@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene3 years agoVery well done video. I raced pro in the 1980s on custom made steel bikes. Yes carbon tubes glued into aluminum lugs were available, and aluminum was available, but i never liked the bottom bracket flex of steel, even with heavy double butting at the bottom bracket end we get so much flex that sprinting and out of saddle climbing flexed the crank and the front derailleur would rub the chain. Aluminum back then got a very bad rep for being harsh riding. Even today i would not buy a bike with an aluminum fork. So after about 20 years of aluminum frame design and material refinement we get a better bike than steel with aluminum. Just make sure you are getting a steel fork with that aluminum frame! so today i continue to ride aluminum frame/steel fork road bikes or aluminum off road bikes with lockout front suspension. I did own a full suspension aluminum bike once, but never again, fat tires of 3 or more inches in width @15psi is the perfect off road bike with no suspension. I have never had a need for carbon, titanium or steel since those old race days. Weight of the bike on my rides alone iseven though i live where 4 mountain ranges meet and climbing steep (7 to 19% and long (10miles) is a way of life here. longevity is always a question to me with carbon and titanium, i get about 25, 0 miles from steel and aluminum before a frame cracks, don' t know if the other materials are better than this. Today my bikes are strong and cheap, i buy $400. 00 mountain bikes and convert to the road with heavy duty wheels, 2 inch heavy duty tires, slime tubes, bar ends, aero bars, rear rack and trunk, clipless pedals. Riding has never been so good for me, strong dependable bikes, 8 of them all set up differently for road, off-road, commuting, town chores, fitness, training, transportation of kayak and myself to wilderness. Oh happy days. ...Expand2
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@SulaimanChoudhury3 years agoLove that the ribble cgr al featured in this, it has been a wonderful bike for me this last year. 1
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@JDRVP3 years agoLove my 2017 caad12. Got to where it weighs 17. 5 lbs with pedals. It' s a beast. The frame is a timeless beauty and truly something to admire and marvel at. 6
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@EmilioRPK3 years agoThanks for the video guys. I' m looking forward to change my entry level bike and i' m trying to decide between a better specs aluminum frame or a low specs carbon one! 3
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@stevem.36462 years agoI know this vid is a year old, but had to offer this. A friend on his canyon had a simple low-speed crash and snapped his seat stay in half. A few days. ...Expand1
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@adhanijauhari10023 years agoCurrently ride with an alumunium frame from mosso taiwan. Mosso 792pro. 7046 alu, frame weight 1, 25kg. The stiffness & ride quality is spot on. Better choice than chinese low end carbon frame. 20
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@boudoir003 years agoMy commuter bike is aluminium, my good bike is carbon. The commuter is also used during the irish winter in the wet. Works perfectly for me and i love. ...Expand2
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@woden_the_wanderer3 years agoI have a 10. 5 kg aluminum b' twin triban 3. The one with the carbon fork. I picked it from decathlon about 5-6 years ago for 300 quid and it' s . ...Expand3
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@janukachandrasena59153 years agoGcn: aluminium or carbon? me with a steel frame bike: 205
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@Rocky47192 years agoMy bike may entry level, but 9. 97 kg is plenty light for my purposes! Now, i adore hill climbing, but im not out to break records other than personal o . ...Expand6
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@haksaw1233 years agoBeing of advanced years and having an engineering background, i couldn' t agree more. Thought with the previzo that a top end carbon bike something. ...Expand1
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@hankhillsnrrwurethra3 years ago6061, 4lyfe! As an american i appreciate the explanation of the pronunciation oflaughed so hard i almost had to go to ' the' hospital. 4
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@dogphlap67493 years agoThe best video i' ve seen on this channel (and they were all well worth watching) thank you. 1
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@patrickgrounds21573 years ago7. 07 and 9. 30 minutes is my new bike in that colourway with flat bars, delivery august 15th. Can' t wait. 1
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@linuxmaster96793 years agoMy carbon mtn bike frame (3 yrs old) broke in two places last oct. I was not even going crazy downhill. I went with aluminium frame with all upgrade components. So far so good! 5
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@cvdavis3 years agoI have several carbon road bikes but just this week i took my aluminum caad9 out for a road ride because my carbon bikes needed some work. The caad9 has. ...Expand5
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@royevans45813 years agoThanks for this vid ollie. I was, as you know, in two minds as to which material was best for bike frames but you have swung me over toseriousl though, from aperspective, ally frames can be replicated consistently and reliably and with far less staff training. Once the tooling is set up, and the initial operator training, you are good to go. The first frame made on a monday morning will be as good quality as the last one made on a friday afternoon. I would not want to pay 80 for a carbon bike frame that was formed on a friday afternoon lol. #39; cos humans. ...Expand22
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@Dannytraining3 years agoFrom canada. And with 20$ the cannondale topstone 105 was the best bike i could afford. I rode a more expensive bike as well. Not much of a difference. ...Expand1
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@frank.l1813 years agoI own cannondale caad 10. What a great frame and ride quality! I still ride a reynolds 853 frameset which still prefer. 2
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@francoisdecarufel12163 years agoExcellent presentation, man. I liked it very much. I learned things today! 2
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@fernandoespinosa34033 years agoThis is one of the best gcn videos ever. 6
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@indiebikes3 years agoS-works allez is my current bike of choice and its awesome. 6. 9kg and super smooth. As good as the tarmacs and venges ive also owned. 2
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@JThelen10313 years agoMy current and previous bikes were both alloy, and they were, and are, absolutely brilliant. Carbon may be spectacular when it comes to stiffness and lightness,. ...Expand13
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@edwardpetersii62762 years agoI admire this gentleman! The way he speaks is interesting but more intriguing his interest in facts and the research he puts into achieving this information!. ...Expand
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@richardwitt82483 years agoThank you for this. I bought a trek domane al5 last summer for under $20 usd and i couldn' t be happier. Aluminum frame, 105the bike of the people! The tires are 700x32 and at 70-75 psi it' s quite a comfortable ride!. ...Expand17
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@mrrodriguezHLP3 years agoMy first road bike was a trek 2300. It' s a composite bike with lugged carbon on the top tube, seat tube, and down tube and aluminum everywhere else.. ...Expand1
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@vincentwahlers3 years agoVery much liked the short excurs into chemistry! Aluminium ftw. 2
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@Criscross2922 years agoCannondales caad10 was a ridiculously nice frame. The handling was telepathic and would put smile on your face. 3
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@mjsylver3 years agoLove my 2018 caad12 105 rim with reynolds ar41s. 7
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@jrevillug3 years agoVery happy with my aluminum road bike - and this video confirms what i was thinking when i made that decision. 1
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@antoniiocaluso10713 years agoAn old italiano here. Who loves my 2008 specialized al/cf roubaix. As much as italia beating england tonight! tonight, all italian cycling id="hidden27" men will be riding a far-softer saddle than fizik ever built. Ooh yeaah. Ha. ...Expand7
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@drew6573 years agoWe call them magnesium and natrium, as they were originally named. 6
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@mikedelta12643 years agoTwo more things in aluminums favor: carbon is a lot more sensitive to torque spec and damage to over torquing. and the dreaded carbon creaks. 107
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@terbennett3 years agoI agree with this from experience. Try riding a cannondale caad 10/12/13. It' s an eye opener. I went from al to carbon and back to al. I only do dura ace builds, so cost isn' t my reason for doing this. 9
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@nowthenad32863 years agoA superbly produced video. The presenter is so eloquent. It appears as if he is not reading a script. Or is he just really clever at making it appear that way. 15
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@bjsr1263 years agoI have a tarmac sl7 (incredible bike) but the allez sprint is still the best bang for buck bike you can get. Is very aggressive though, so may not be id="hidden31" the best daily rider that' s all. When frame sets start becoming more readily available, i' ll definelty be getting myself one. ...Expand2
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@alex.pozgaj3 years agoGreat video! I have a lowly tcr (carbon) and a contend ar1 (aluminium) and i love them both - apart from, of course, the geometry, i can' t tell much difference. Ar1 feels, in certain situations, even better.
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@RajReviewsDualSportPhotoGadget3 years agoGood video. Very informative, and to the point.
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@smithpauld15013 years agoGreat stuff. Harping on the difference between us and uk usage is so 2019, ollie. 2
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@MaxZappa13 years agoReceived my new ribble cgr al yesterday, with carbon seat post and carbon handlebars. Have yet to have a ride on it. Sadly could only afford tiagra group. ...Expand
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@quivivravelo3 years agoBmc alr one of the most underrated bike at the moment. best alloys: caad 12/caad 10/caad 13/specialized allez sprint/trek emonda alr, bmc alr and some others: 15
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@koenstrobbe81013 years agoStarted cycling as my main sport on high-end carbon bikes. Always wanted a retro steel bike so i took some time to build some (battaglin and de rosa) using. ...Expand1
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@JamesSmith-zs8fl2 years agoI have two trek alpha aluminum bikes; one road, one mountain. I have been riding them for 20 years. Love ' em. I also have an older cervelo soloist. ...Expand
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@665Thunderlast yearThis video was just enough to move me towards purchasing an aluminum bike. I was looking for a gravel bike with some average size wheels. At some point. ...Expand
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@JENZOS13 years agoI have had my gt elite carbon bike now for a year. Its a gravel bike but works great on road has well, not fitted any slick road tyres on it yet but it. ...Expand
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@dianal.12793 years agoThe carbon frame of my brother' s bike was cut in two. By a small incident. For many, the cost aspect becomes important. 3
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@arvo_cado3 years agoIf you give your aluminium bike to second hand it' s literally. 251
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@gkendell3 years agoIm curious to understand how do i spot top-end aluminium and/or cheap carbon? 19
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@p3p0r3 years agoI got my aluminium road bike 30 years ago and it' s still in great shape and rides really well! I wonder how well carbon fiber frames fare after three. ...Expand2
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@urskuckertz82083 years agoI had a klein rascal aluminum bike (that' s 25 years ago) and that was then state of the art and it drove fantastically. Today i have a high-end carbon. ...Expand1
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@peterlewis22553 years agoWhen i decided it was time for n+1 i started looking at carbon, but was quickly convinced that aluminium would better suit my needs. Chose the frame, drove. ...Expand
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@jimmyv83073 years agoI love my caad! Not missing a thing compared to an average full carbon bike. it runs circles around my wife' s full carbon specialized rubaix like you mentioned in the video carbon fiber is an easy sell this doesn' t mean it' s better at least not until you get to the upper tiers of bikes. my aluminum bike is actually lighter than my wife' s rubaix due to the superior finishing kit. ...Expand1
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@neelsahay52273 years agoLove my allez sprint. Cool pulling up to local critriums and seeing 5 more, too. 4
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@AbiShafi3 years agoIve just ordered (last week) a ribble al disk with 105s, ksyrium wheels, schwalbe pro one tyres, carbon seat post for delivery may/june next year. I w. ...Expand
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@imd8GTr72 years agoI have a trek 1. 5 compact alpha. Aluminium frame with fairly basic entry level group set etc. I changed out the original wheels for some expensive ones and it transformed the bike.
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@chitowne4603 years agoHaven' t tried an alum frame lately, but going from my 2004 fuji roubaix (al) to 2016 fuji sl (carbon) was a huge difference in handling, acceleration. ...Expand4
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@moggy293 years agoI' ve owned a canyon aeroad, and now have a caad12 black inc i prefer the cannondale! 1
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@mikecortes84813 years agoI love my trek 1500 aluminum frame, that ive completely rebuilt with carbon goodies! Also stripped all the paint off it for an incredible polish able look! Saved some weight there too. 3
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@bubblesezblonde3 years agoThanks for trying to educate people per the correct pronunciation ofi gave up and just moved to using the prior gibberish when referring to the metal. Kudos to dr. Ollie with the maths lesson. I learn a lot from most of your ramblings. My experience is; mybike' s ' flex' makes it a bit more forgivable on uneven pavements in the usa. I also love my carbon fibre, but i feel every bump in the tarmac when i ride it. ...Expand
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@marcuspoblete44623 years agoI am a proud aluminum rider! Ive crashed more times than i have ever hoped for and broke a lot of parts but the one thing that never failed me is my aluminium frame. 12
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@sjv65983 years agoIll tell you what, oli. Ill ride an aluminium bike when you do. 15
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@davidchadderton59043 years agoThanks for the video. Reasoned and sensible.
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@jonmathias61593 years agoHe' s got a point. You' re talking about a 300g difference in frame weight. If i really needed that weight saving, i' d get it off my gut for no cost. 43
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@ericcsaba87792 years agoCan you review your top picks for top end aluminum bikes for this year and of all time? 1
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@drouleaulast yearI built up a trek emonda alr rim brake bike a few years ago - weighs 15 pounds on the nose (a disc brake version would prob be at least a pound heavier) handles great and feels.
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@Lucas-ie2ti3 years agoMy 1st bike ever was a allez sport. Then i had a trek madone sl6 and it was a amazing bike dont get me wrong but it was a bit too aggressive geometry id="hidden51" for me. Sold it and been look at trek domane sl5 but honestly i' m getting drawn back to another specialized allez but this time a sprint comp. Amazing bike, good price and the riding i do around nyc im afraid for carbon in regards to potholes or accidents in this concrete jungle. ...Expand1
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@mdzulsuzuki2 years agoHi gcn, i always watch your video regarding roadbike. Many thing i can learn from your video. Im using cronus belgium 4. 0 roadbike and very nice roadbike i have a question, what a different in performance between our roadbike? Because i can easy follow my friends with my alloy cronus roadbike. ...Expand
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@a.wesomej.ourney3 years agoLove this makes me feel good about my trek domane al4!
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@AstroLaVista3 years agoI love how you backed up absolutely everything i' m happy with my trek domane al5. Yes it weighs 10. 4kg, but it handles the uk' s destroyed roads beautifully! 32mm tires for the win. 117
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@chriswright90963 years agoMy aluminium trek 2300 (circa early 20s) developed a fracture in a weld on the non drive side chain-stay after a few years (which made it a write-off). ...Expand
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@roivosemraiva2 years agoThank you for your work on the debate of carbon vs. Carbon. i ride both old italian steel bikes and aluminium bikes. After 40 years of riding mountains will they hold their value as other bikes?. ...Expand
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@christianbarrera357910 months agoCan you make a video helping us see a high tier aluminum bike vs a beginner carbon bike and how to tell? Love you guys.
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@gillesbkf43153 years agoI got myself a second hand collector swiss carbon aero bike (manufactured by cilo) for 700 $ it' s an awesome bike, very stiff. Came with a set of. ...Expand
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@jobvolkers25503 years agoLoving my caad12, amazing ride quality and ofcourse an amazing looking frame. 41
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@JamesBenning-sc6dj4 months agoLove my orbea arin - a great climbing bike. Super responsive and comfortable with a pmp ti pin. Plus wth campag neutrons and record it comes in at 7. 2kg. Whats not to like?
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@michaelmoore91392 years agoI road my $1200, 24 pound aluminum giant revolt 2 on a 530 mile bike packing trip with a friend of comparable age and fitness as me. He was riding a $3400,. ...Expand
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@angela-onesroman88733 years agoYes sir, loving my custom built caad13 just a little more today.
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@davidwilson64803 years agoGreat vid, is there any truth that alu frames become harsh with use (work harden) i remember an article years ago that after riding the pave the bianchi frames the pros rode felt dead and harsh?
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@alic69583 years agoHahaha that cut to ollie in a lab coat got me. 17
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@fabiopunk16613 years agoIt depends on the type of bike and its use. I chose carbon super light for climbing road passes. I use aluminium with carbon fork for training on hills. actually i find the best is steel and carbon fork. I have one for 8. 2 kg. ...Expand6
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and the back up reason: i' m broke. 330
otherwise the aluminum frame is a bit heavy to ride, buton mind. No worry about anything)
so i choosed aluminum series 7. ...Expand 90
what worries me about id="hidden5" carbon is recycling ( pardon the pun ) so you are correct -once again a great point!
maybe you could explore the ecological impact of carbon frames in some future video?. ...Expand 12
so today i continue to ride aluminum frame/steel fork road bikes or aluminum off road bikes with lockout front suspension. I did own a full suspension aluminum bike once, but never again, fat tires of 3 or more inches in width @15psi is the perfect off road bike with no suspension. I have never had a need for carbon, titanium or steel since those old race days. Weight of the bike on my rides alone iseven though i live where 4 mountain ranges meet and climbing steep (7 to 19% and long (10miles) is a way of life here.
longevity is always a question to me with carbon and titanium, i get about 25, 0 miles from steel and aluminum before a frame cracks, don' t know if the other materials are better than this. Today my bikes are strong and cheap, i buy $400. 00 mountain bikes and convert to the road with heavy duty wheels, 2 inch heavy duty tires, slime tubes, bar ends, aero bars, rear rack and trunk, clipless pedals. Riding has never been so good for me, strong dependable bikes, 8 of them all set up differently for road, off-road, commuting, town chores, fitness, training, transportation of kayak and myself to wilderness. Oh happy days. ...Expand 2
me with a steel frame bike: 205
tonight, all italian cycling id="hidden27" men will be riding a far-softer saddle than fizik ever built. Ooh yeaah. Ha. ...Expand 7
and the dreaded carbon creaks. 107
best alloys: caad 12/caad 10/caad 13/specialized allez sprint/trek emonda alr, bmc alr and some others: 15
it runs circles around my wife' s full carbon specialized rubaix like you mentioned in the video carbon fiber is an easy sell
this doesn' t mean it' s better at least not until you get to the upper tiers of bikes.
my aluminum bike is actually lighter than my wife' s rubaix due to the superior finishing kit. ...Expand 1
i ride both old italian steel bikes and aluminium bikes. After 40 years of riding mountains will they hold their value as other bikes?. ...Expand
i remember an article years ago that after riding the pave the bianchi frames the pros rode felt dead and harsh?